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	<title>Comments on: Topic types: borrowing from DITA</title>
	<link>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/</link>
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		<title>by: Ann L. Wiley</title>
		<link>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-143</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Please note: based on the comments for this post, Marcia Poulsen has revised the presentation we published here. The revision has been posted: http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/19/topic-types/

Please comment on the presentation at this new location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please note: based on the comments for this post, Marcia Poulsen has revised the presentation we published here. The revision has been posted: <a href='http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/19/topic-types/' rel='nofollow'>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/19/topic-types/</a></p>
<p>Please comment on the presentation at this new location.
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		<title>by: Marcia Poulsen</title>
		<link>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-137</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>P.S.
Thanks to Nick Klasovsky's analysis, I have substantially revised the &quot;after&quot; example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.<br />
Thanks to Nick Klasovsky&#8217;s analysis, I have substantially revised the &#8220;after&#8221; example.
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		<title>by: Marcia Poulsen</title>
		<link>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-133</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>These comments all help me in different ways. Thanks, Cheryl, Nick, and Ray.

Nick's point that &quot;Concepts, Tasks, Reference topic types can really apply anywhere and existed long before DITA was conceived&quot; is well taken. When I give the presentation I emphasize that it is not about DITA but about pre-existing best practices that DITA is built on. 

I could have avoided mentioning DITA, but I think that writers who are struggling to make the transition to topic-based writing (whether or not they're using DITA) can benefit from at least an overview of DITA's three core info types. That has been the case for me anyhow.

Also I think that DITA's growing adoption lends legitimacy, and an increasingly common language, to information typing where I have encountered skepticism on this approach in the past. 

Marcia P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments all help me in different ways. Thanks, Cheryl, Nick, and Ray.</p>
<p>Nick&#8217;s point that &#8220;Concepts, Tasks, Reference topic types can really apply anywhere and existed long before DITA was conceived&#8221; is well taken. When I give the presentation I emphasize that it is not about DITA but about pre-existing best practices that DITA is built on. </p>
<p>I could have avoided mentioning DITA, but I think that writers who are struggling to make the transition to topic-based writing (whether or not they&#8217;re using DITA) can benefit from at least an overview of DITA&#8217;s three core info types. That has been the case for me anyhow.</p>
<p>Also I think that DITA&#8217;s growing adoption lends legitimacy, and an increasingly common language, to information typing where I have encountered skepticism on this approach in the past. </p>
<p>Marcia P.
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		<title>by: Ray Eisenberg</title>
		<link>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-126</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-126</guid>
					<description>I liked the presentation and the way it shows the value of information typing.

I follow a 5-type model: facts, concepts, processes, principles, and procedures, which I find is much more useful. In fact your example which shows information types mixed, &quot;concepts&quot; embedded in a procedure, are not &quot;concepts.&quot; They are guidelines (principles) which I think shows the limitations of going with only three information types.

Thanks

Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the presentation and the way it shows the value of information typing.</p>
<p>I follow a 5-type model: facts, concepts, processes, principles, and procedures, which I find is much more useful. In fact your example which shows information types mixed, &#8220;concepts&#8221; embedded in a procedure, are not &#8220;concepts.&#8221; They are guidelines (principles) which I think shows the limitations of going with only three information types.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Ray
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		<title>by: Nick Klasovsky</title>
		<link>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-125</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-125</guid>
					<description>Good presentation and well done. Very basic, for those who need to be trained in how to organize information. I don't understand where the DITA connection is, as the Concepts, Tasks, Reference topic types can really apply anywhere and existed long before DITA was conceived. 

The one problem I have with the presentation is that I think the &quot;before&quot; example is actually better than the &quot;after&quot; example. Also, the &quot;after&quot; example includes information (volume controls) not included in the &quot;before&quot; example, which confuses the issue. Also, the &quot;after&quot; example looks like a lot of totally aggravating help topics I have run across before: It tells you that you can do it, but doesn't tell you how. The &quot;before&quot; example tells you, step by step, how to do something (turn Audio Out on or off).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good presentation and well done. Very basic, for those who need to be trained in how to organize information. I don&#8217;t understand where the DITA connection is, as the Concepts, Tasks, Reference topic types can really apply anywhere and existed long before DITA was conceived. </p>
<p>The one problem I have with the presentation is that I think the &#8220;before&#8221; example is actually better than the &#8220;after&#8221; example. Also, the &#8220;after&#8221; example includes information (volume controls) not included in the &#8220;before&#8221; example, which confuses the issue. Also, the &#8220;after&#8221; example looks like a lot of totally aggravating help topics I have run across before: It tells you that you can do it, but doesn&#8217;t tell you how. The &#8220;before&#8221; example tells you, step by step, how to do something (turn Audio Out on or off).
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		<title>by: Cheryl Bennett</title>
		<link>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-124</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi!  I really enjoyed this presentation.  I am trying to &quot;lean&quot; out my writing and hope to use your presentation to clarify my text.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  I really enjoyed this presentation.  I am trying to &#8220;lean&#8221; out my writing and hope to use your presentation to clarify my text.</p>
<p>Thanks!
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		<title>by: Marcia Poulsen</title>
		<link>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-123</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://stc-on.org/online/topics/content-management/2006/08/05/topic-types-borrowing-from-dita/#comment-123</guid>
					<description>If you take the time to view the slides, you'll get the most out of them if you select View Show (or press F5 key) and click through it as a presentation so that the items appear with each mouse click as they were intended to. 

I'd be very interested in hearing feedback -- specifically how this presentation helped you, where it misses the mark, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you take the time to view the slides, you&#8217;ll get the most out of them if you select View Show (or press F5 key) and click through it as a presentation so that the items appear with each mouse click as they were intended to. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be very interested in hearing feedback &#8212; specifically how this presentation helped you, where it misses the mark, etc.
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